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Meg Traci: The CDC. I'm also the chair of the disability section for the American Public Health Association and on behalf of

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Meg Traci: Hello, I am Meg Traci with the Montana Disability and Health Program funded by the CDC and I am also the chair of the APHA disability section. We'd like to thank the lakeshore foundation for supporting our chairs Forum held in Philadelphia. APHA 2019 that led to today's exciting webinar. Next slide.

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Meg Traci: That

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Meg Traci: also reflects our dear colleague Chris Kochtitzky who we'd like to honor with today's webinar. Chris lived and breathed urban planning.

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Hana Meshesha: Public health, social justice and

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Meg Traci: Inclusion. It was his life. He was a generous caring friend and a tenacious public health professional pursuing his life.

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Meg Traci: And work with bigger charm wisdom and intelligence, if you're so inclined. We'd like to invite you to contribute to one of your local

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Meg Traci: Organizations advancing health equity through healthy communities work or to contribute to the Chris Kochtitzky Memorial Fund.

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Meg Traci: With the link provided here on the slide and with our resources 

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Meg Traci: List that will be published with the meeting proceedings and you also can learn more about Chris and his work on this link. Chris was a person with a disability. And so he did his work at the CDC differently. And I think with inclusion and social justice

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Meg Traci: At the heart of his approach. and that connected the work of the healthy communities.

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Meg Traci: Professionals at CDC with the disability community and I think you'll see that reflected in today's webinar and the work of the awesome panelists that we have today.

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Meg Traci: At this point I'd like to turn it over to two the leaders of the disability section within a PHA Mackenzie Jones and Winston Kennedy.

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Meg Traci: Who work tirelessly with APHA to advance all solutions for holding conferences meetings like today in the most accessible inclusive way possible. So Mackenzie and Winston.

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: Thank you Meg. So before we started, I wanted to let everyone know that we have both.

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: We have chat box capabilities. we will have designated question and answer, time at the end of this webinar about 10 to 15 minutes

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: And but you can place any questions you have in the chat box at any time you can access that on your within your toolbar, which can be found at the bottom of your zoom

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: Zoom bar or if you don't see it, you can click More and we also have live captioning on this webinar. So if you'd like to access that can be found in your toolbar under closed caption and I will

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: transfer over to Winston to introduce the APHA virtual meeting.

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Danielle Farley: Sorry, Winston. I think that you're on mute.

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Winston Kennedy: Ah man, I broke the first rule of zoom meetings, not on mute. I'll start over. And be brief, Mackenzie, and I work with APHA staff to ensure that the annual meeting is accessible for people with disabilities, with the new virtual format. We're working on

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Winston Kennedy: To promote inclusion and accessibility. If anyone watching the

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Winston Kennedy: Webinar has any resources suggestions personal experiences about making the virtual meeting more accessible. Please comment, using the chat box.

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Winston Kennedy: Or, feel free to email us afterwards real we're happy for your input. And we're continuously working towards making this the most successful meeting yet.

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Dot Nary: Hi everyone. I'm Dot Nary. I'm with the Kansas Disability and Health Program. I'll be moderating the segment of the webinar. We have some great presenters and now I'll introduce the first one.

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Dot Nary: Charles Brown is a senior researcher with the Allen M Vorhees Transportation Center and an adjunct professor at the Edward J Bloustein School of Planning and public policy at Rutgers University.

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Dot Nary: He's the recipient of and have several notable honors and transportation and received invitations to speak locally, nationally and internationally.

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Dot Nary: As a livability and healthy community advocate, he's he's considered a regional thought leader and a leading voice in encouraging complete streets policy adoption and implementation in New Jersey.

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Dot Nary: We're thrilled to have Charles join us to discuss achieving health equity through the creation of environments that facilitate safety and free movement for all users, Charles

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Charles Brown: Thank you. Thank you, Dot. It is certainly a pleasure to be here.

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Charles Brown: Today I wanted to speak to you about very briefly designing value. What does it mean to design with equity in mind. I want to start. However, by saying that

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Charles Brown: I am because we are. That is an African proverb that I follow. I hope is one that you follow too.

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Charles Brown: Here is a photo of me in elementary school. I like to use this photo because it very quickly reminds me of value in some I used to be but also how shy used to be when it came to

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Charles Brown: Speaking in front of people and taking photos. It reminds me of how far I've come, first and foremost, as a street level researcher.

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Charles Brown: I identify as a street level researcher, because the ideas that I get the research that I do is informed by the people that I meet every day on the streets, whether it be in New Jersey or other parts across North America.

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Charles Brown: But I'm also a practice Dimmick which means that I'm a practicing planner, as well as an academic I combine the two of those to do the best job. I can tell elevate the voices of the people that we do research for in that we serve every day throughout our communities.

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Charles Brown: I currently live, work and play and the New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania metropolitan area.

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Charles Brown: If you're familiar with this area, you know that it's around 20 million people is the most densely populated parts of the country and also parts of the world, New York City is very progressive when it comes to most presidential elections, if not all of it tends to go blue

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Charles Brown: Prior to move into the New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania metropolitan area I live, work and play in the City Beautiful, which is the city of Orlando.

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Charles Brown: By comparison to New York City Orlando is virtually and sober, but it does have in his metropolitan area over 2 million people it to is considered to be a more progressive city.

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Charles Brown: So I had a fantastic time living, working and playing on the happiest place on earth. Prior to go in there. However, I spent time in the army.

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Charles Brown: In Fort Sill, Oklahoma. Fort Sill, Oklahoma has a population of around 50,000 people. I think that part of Oklahoma may fall red, but it was one of the best times in my life when I got to meet other soldiers from all over North America.

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Charles Brown: Here's what I grew up. I grew up in a town of 500 people called sugarlock, Mississippi. It is currently where my mother Liz and most of my immediate family.

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Charles Brown: Sugar like by comparison, has a population of 500 people but that population swells to around 650 people when my cousins from Chicago Milwaukee in Detroit comes to town. It is where I

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Charles Brown: Got the values that I have today and it is the place that has contributed most to me being the person that I am. Now I bring all these things up because I believe having spent time in rural America.

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Charles Brown: Suburban American urban America has been around people who vote Democrat, Republican

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Charles Brown: Democrat who are Democrats who are Republicans who are confused. Who are you name it. I got 99 problems, but understanding, you will not be one of them. I strongly believe that with these lived experiences we can find a way to connect and hopefully we're able to connect through this presentation.

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Charles Brown: So to begin with, equity, what is equity? I have three main principles for defining what equity is. The first one is simply

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Charles Brown: involves trying to understand and give people what they need to enjoy for healthy lives. when I state this principle of equity across us most people are in complete agreement with it.

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Charles Brown: However, when I move towards principle two and number three, that's when you start to see some push back.

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Charles Brown: Principle number two is equity as the presence of justice and fairness, but then the procedures, the processes and distribution of resources

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Charles Brown: By institutions or systems. In short, if you're looking for equity or inequity you follow the decisions that are being made in the money and the resources that are being distributed

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Charles Brown: Whoever is in receipt of those resources are being served equitably those who are not in receipt of it have not been served equitably

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Charles Brown: But then, thirdly, if you are to do this equity work it is important that you understand or you have

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Charles Brown: An understanding of the underlying of the root causes of inequality in oppression within our society.

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Charles Brown: Is one thing to know where your resources are being distributed what processes are in place. Who's making the decisions, but it's another thing to not be

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Charles Brown: ahistorical and not be apolitical, we must understand what role history is played in creating conditions that exist today. And then once you have that understanding

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Charles Brown: It's important that you go deeper, because we all are very complex individuals and beings, we don't have just one identity we have multiple identities.

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Charles Brown: And so I would like for you to take a look at this screen and look at, you know, this wheel, a social identity wheel and it states, you know, people have sexual orientation. Your race, gender, etc.

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Charles Brown: And I want you to ask yourself a series of questions. The first question is which identity do you think about most often?

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Charles Brown: The second one is which identities do you think about least often?

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Charles Brown: Thirdly, which are your own identities which you like to learn more about?

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Charles Brown: Four, which are your identities have the strongest effect on how you perceive yourself?

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Charles Brown: And then, which of your identities have the greatest effect on how others perceive you?

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Charles Brown: This is important because once you start to look at the intersection ality

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Charles Brown: A multitude of the things that we're going to talk about here today. One, do you know that persons with disabilities, their strongest identity to you may be their disability but that may not be their strongest identity to them.

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Charles Brown: So it's important to see beyond the obvious to recognize that, again, we are complex individuals in understanding us as well as our challenges requires that you understand these complex

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Charles Brown: Set of different social identities and once you have that understanding. Here's a quote that I've made that I continue to stand by because the evidence supports it.

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Charles Brown: It is that it transportation has been weaponized as a tool of oppression within society, you may say, Charlie Brown will, how is that so

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Charles Brown: Well, first and foremost, there's the highway robbery that took place all over America.

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Charles Brown: You follow the interstate highway system and you're going to find evidence that through government action many black and brown communities were destroyed simply to provide access to the suburbs.

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Charles Brown: In the everyday destination of non black and brown people. Here's an example of historic trauma in New Orleans. You can see the photo on the left where they had a nice beautiful

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Charles Brown: lateral park that was replaced with a highway system that has now led to the health inequities that exists in New Orleans, as well as in other places throughout the country.

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Charles Brown: Then there's traffic violence that resulted from this as well. The National complete these coalition produces a report called Dangerous by design. And in that report it identified who's most at risk.

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Charles Brown: And who's currently most at risk are older adults, people of color and people walking in low income communities.

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Charles Brown: When you look at older adults their relative pedestrian danger index for those age 50 and above was more the third higher than their counterparts.

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Charles Brown: When it came to people of color black in African Americans were 72% more likely to have been struck and killed by drivers while walking.

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Charles Brown: And then lastly, those living in those traversing through. So whether you live in one or if you simply traverse to and from your everyday destinations.

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Charles Brown: If you go through a community with a medium household income of $36,000 or less you are at a much higher rate of being killed at the very minimum

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Charles Brown: Hopefully, this would encourage you to be more empathetic of your neighbors because it may not be your community in which you are a victim of a crash or fatality. It may be the one proximate to you.

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Charles Brown: So that's important that we consider you know the ways in which, in the reasons of which our neighbors are suffering so that we can do something about it as well.

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Charles Brown: The question that most of you should be asking right now is, where's the data on persons with disabilities and how are they impacted disproportionately in these crashes, unfortunately.

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Charles Brown: Because people are not considering the depth of the identities that I mentioned, oftentimes

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Charles Brown: The crashes that persons with disabilities or experiences are not making their ways into these reports and we could talk about why that may be the case, then there's this issue around over policing and enforcement. Here's a study from Chicago, which basically takes a look at

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Charles Brown: Tickets that were being issued throughout the Chicago area. What you found, In short, is that

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Charles Brown: Of the 10 communities that we see the most tickets, not a single majority white area ranked in the top 10

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Charles Brown: Why is this surprising because most of the white areas in Chicago are actually where you have the greatest amount of bicycling

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Charles Brown: So if they're bicycling, the most why our communities of color receiving the most tickets. This is pointing to systemic institutional racism and discrimination within the police force, then getting back to the importance of looking at social identities.

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Charles Brown: Black and brown people who happened to be transgender are

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Charles Brown: Also being targeted while walking our streets every day. And unfortunately, this is receiving little to no attention in the research that we're doing around increasing mobility and physical activity for people of color.

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Charles Brown: And one particular point. At least 20 transgender people have been killed.

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Charles Brown: While simply existing in public space on our roadways. To add to this particular trauma. They're also being profile by police for engaging in sex work, simply for existing in our public spaces.

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Charles Brown: So, what are the equity implications. Well, what we're starting to find and research is pointing to is that one's race determines what one's place and one's place, determines one's health.

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Charles Brown: Here's an example of a life expectancy is a zip code from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. I've been working with the city of to Tallulah, Louisiana.

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Charles Brown: The top numbers here. The 68 years is the life expectancy of Someone Living in Tula Louisiana.

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Charles Brown: You compare that to the life expectancy of the average person in the United States. And you can see that is 78.7 so there's nearly a 10 year difference simply based on where you live in this country, in this particular case Tallula, Louisiana.

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Charles Brown: And so thankfully the public health sectors now started to see the importance of not only

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Charles Brown: While we must address these risk behaviors disease and injury to present to prevent mortality, but they're starting to see the role that living conditions play on misbehavior.

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Charles Brown: The role that institutional inequities play on creating living conditions and then how social inequities influence institutional inequities leading to risk behavior disease and mortality.

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Charles Brown: In the past, and fortunately too often the public health sector only wanted to discuss the risky behaviors of black, brown and other people. now finally

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Charles Brown: They're starting to see this connection to the built environment. Thankfully, because people of color.

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Charles Brown: Face higher rates of diabetes, obesity, stroke, heart disease and cancer and also because these built environment, These living conditions are also impacting people's household budgets.

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Charles Brown: transportations currently ranked in the top five in terms of expenditures for households in America. And then there is a connection to climate change as well.

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Charles Brown: I was fortunate enough to survive. Both Hurricane Katrina, as well as Hurricane Sandy, so I know the role that

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Charles Brown: Transportation mobility, how it impacts the environment, both positively and negatively. And so it's important right now to say that history doesn't say goodbye history says, See you later. And how does history say, See you later? Well, let's go back to, Tallulah,

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Charles Brown: Louisiana for a second and looking at this map that you see right here, and I want you to kind of say this in the chat. If you can, or say this to yourself aloud.

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Charles Brown: If blue represents where white people live and green represents where black people live, purple represents were Hispanic live and the other colors represents Asian, American Indian and other. What do you see on this map type, type that in the chat. For me, what do you see?

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Charles Brown: Let's not just top there, let's go to Austin, Texas. Here's a map of Austin if blue represents where white people live of green represents were black people live

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Charles Brown: And purple represents were Hispanic live, what do you see in Austin, Texas.

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Charles Brown: We're not just going to pick on Austin, we're going to move forward. Let's move to Houston, Texas. Again, if blue represents for white people live green represents where blacks live and purple represents were Hispanic live, what do you see in Houston, Texas.

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Charles Brown: It's not enough there. Let's move to Atlanta, Georgia, which is the black market.

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Charles Brown: If blue represents again where white people live in green represents where black people live, what do you see in Atlanta?

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Charles Brown: Some of us do not commit. So we probably need to go to the nation's capital. Here's the nation capital, where all the major decisions are being made about the future of America.

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Charles Brown: And what you see, excuse me, is again at Blue is where white people live in green is where black people live, where do you see

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Charles Brown: Now let's go to Portland asked the same question. This is Portland if blue is where white people live in green is where black people live, what do you see in Portland.

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Charles Brown: What you see is racial residential segregation and it is by design, and it has impact on people's psyche and its impact on people's

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Charles Brown: The way they feel about how they can operate in public space and whether or not their issues are being addressed.

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Charles Brown: And so, Portland is considered one of the most bicycle friendly communities in all of America if not the world, but what you don't see enough in Portland is images of black and brown people biking and you certainly don't see images of people with disabilities, whether they are black, brown

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Charles Brown: Etc. You do not see it in Portland, so

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Charles Brown: That's important for a number of reasons. It's also important because as we look at these social identities, we look at this, at an intersectional way, we can not only talk about disability overlook the fact that it is true then minorities with disabilities suffer most.

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Charles Brown: So how can we, or Charlie Brown create a safe equitable and inclusive system for all. What I'm going to do right now is give you a framework.

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Charles Brown: A way to kind of think about approaching this work to us creating more equity inclusive system.

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Charles Brown: You are to always ask these questions whenever you're doing a walk audit a bike audit.

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Charles Brown: A complete streets program or any transportation decisions that you're making this is a framework that I think will lead to tours, a more equitable than just environment.

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Charles Brown: But remember, it's important again before going there that you asked yourself about these different identities, because when you look at question number two which identities. You think about least often

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Charles Brown: If you're thinking about these identities least often more than often you're excluding these people from your processes. So that's a quick reminder

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Charles Brown: So what is this equity in a justice framework? It is a framework that considers distributive justice, procedural justice, interaction of justice.

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Charles Brown: Representation of justice and care and I'll go through all of these really quickly for you. So starting with district obsesses first question, you must always ask is,

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Charles Brown: Who has physical access to the street. The park a trail. When we say who we are not talking just about a person

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Charles Brown: But we're also talking about the different modalities and we're certainly talking about persons with disability as well.

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Charles Brown: If all persons in all modes don't have access to a particular place: a street, a Park, or trail, of course connectivity applies here not all modes are welcome in all places.

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Charles Brown: Then you have to question why they don't have it. This is important because research that I've done around looking at kids getting to and from school safely, most responded in the survey that I conducted feel that their children.

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Charles Brown: Do not feel that their children are safe from traffic when bicycling in their neighborhoods. So there's this push to get safe routes to school. There's this push to get

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Charles Brown: Kids, especially kids of color more physically active, but you have to understand currently most parents don't feel that their kids can safely get to and from these locations.

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Charles Brown: And then adults also stated that only one in four of them feel that they can safely bike to local parks or trails from their homes.

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Charles Brown: So you can build these beautiful parks these beautiful trails, but people in these communities currently do not feel they can safely get to them from these locations.

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Charles Brown: And when it comes to safety. They're talking about the duality of safety. They fear traffic pilots, as well as violence against their black bodies in brown bags.

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Charles Brown: The next point is around procedural justice, you must ask, who has influence over the design the operations in the programming of the spaces that you're in the systems that you're looking to put in place.

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Charles Brown: And so one point that I want you to consider is, who has this sort of this influence of a design operation. The program is that way too often.

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Charles Brown: Excuse me, way too often minority youth are not included in planning and transportation decision making, but they're more light.

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Charles Brown: But they're more likely to be a victim of these decisions. Then there's interactional justice. What makes people feel welcome, or unwanted in a space?

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Charles Brown: And so please consider that currently African Americans are two and a half times more likely to be killed by law enforcement.

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Charles Brown: And some of the research that I've done shows that males reported being stopped at a rate seven times that of female. So yes, you can build it. But how will people be treated once they're there.

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Charles Brown: Then there's this idea of representational justice, do people feel that their experience and their history is represented in space too often what we come to find is that

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Charles Brown: The historical and cultural erasure takes place in communities across this country we go into developing new part develop a new trail complete a street.

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Charles Brown: And oftentimes it happens in a way that is disrespectful towards the history and the people that are currently in that place is important that we always honor those who are there those who've been there and there are many ways in which we can do that.

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Charles Brown: And then lastly, how do people demonstrate their care for the space and other people in it.

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Charles Brown: It's one thing to build the place. But if we don't go back and maintain that space. What signs is signal we sent into people in terms of how we care about them in the spaces in which they occupy

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Charles Brown: My resources, show me that our systems have been bias against women and they don't protect religious minority groups and the same could be

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Charles Brown: Said for persons with disabilities. So it can, if we're not caring for if we're not looking out for if we're not including

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Charles Brown: And giving these people power in the decision around the communities that we are creating an environment that we are creating we are not delivering justice.

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Charles Brown: And so here are a set of equity strategies or recommendations I would like for you to consider to

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Charles Brown: Encourage your organization, your local municipality state or regional government to consider, because I think it will lead to more just outcomes in a future.

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Charles Brown: First and foremost, demand that they become anti racist.

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Charles Brown: The culture must become anti racist is one thing to talk about equity. It's another thing to talk about justice we need these organizations to be anti state in a firm that they are anti racist organizations.

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Charles Brown: We need them to develop or adopt a racial equity action plan, we need to conduct equity trainings with their staff.

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Charles Brown: We need to to put together a set of equity performance measures and then develop internal and external equity.

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Charles Brown: advisory groups to make sure that they're committed to this long term that this is not just lip service, but this is something that's being institutionalized within the systems.

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Charles Brown: And once we have that all that in place. I want to leave you with this one reminder

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Charles Brown: trees planted in minority communities mature just in time for gentrification to take place. So what I'm saying there be proactive against

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Charles Brown: Displacement in gentrification because too often, that is an end result of all the beautiful things that we're making happen in our different communities around infrastructure improvements.

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Charles Brown: And then lastly, never forget that justice is what love looks like in public.

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Charles Brown: So at a minimum, the work that we're seeking to do here is about love. It's about love of self its about love of neighbor and it's about love for humanity.

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Charles Brown: Regardless of the person's abilities or disabilities. We must seek love in public. Thank you for your time. This is my contact information. I look forward to hearing from you, and I'm going to turn things back over to the team.

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Dot Nary: Thank you so much. Charles

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Dot Nary: There's so much here to unpack. I don't know if I can adequately summarize it, but I guess for me it's

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Dot Nary: capsulized in Charles's statement. How can we create a safe equitable and inclusive system for all that's really the heart of his, his presentation.

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Dot Nary: And he addresses the history of inequity in the built environment in his, his allusion to the concept of justice several kinds of justice: distributive justice, who has access, procedural justice who has influence

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Dot Nary: International Justice who is welcome and representative justice who is representative all those are really speak to the theme of this webinar and so appreciative of the way

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Dot Nary: The very articulate way in the presentation. The photos. He presented that really encapsulate what we're talking about here.

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Dot Nary: I think that we can all appreciate Charles definition of that of inclusion, that is, encompassing of people who are marginalized in many different ways.

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Dot Nary: And who suffer poor health and other inequities because of their marginalization and on that note, I'd like to proceed and introduce our panel who will carry on this theme on

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Dot Nary: Our panel members have broad expertise related to walkable and movable communities they represent various marginalized groups and will address the effects of barriers.

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Dot Nary: Including the trauma that can stem from being marginalized and how barriers in the built environment can increase that trauma.

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Dot Nary: By preventing connections with support networks, I'll introduce each of the speakers and then they'll proceed to

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Dot Nary: Share their personal experiences and professional experiences first April Murdoch is a paraplegic trans woman who was paralyzed and left for dead simply for being trans

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Dot Nary: She's a fierce advocate for both disabled and LGBT Q communities serves as treasurer for disability pride Philadelphia and is a retired board member of P flag Liberty City Dems in suicide crisis intervention, New Jersey.

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Dot Nary: Fran Fulton is a disability rights advocate who retired from liberty resources Philadelphia Center for Independent Living

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Dot Nary: She continues to be active as a member of adapt to fight for the civil rights of people with disabilities at all levels of government.

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Dot Nary: And works with organizations such as the steering committee of feet first Philly a pedestrian advocacy group.

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Dot Nary: Jana Lynott is a Senior Policy Advisor with AARP Public Policy Institute.

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Dot Nary: For research and videography focus on a broader range of planning and policy issues, including Safe Streets public transportation older driver safety and the travel patterns of older adults.

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Dot Nary: Latoya Maddox works full time as a as an advocate and independent living specialist at liberty results sources in Philadelphia. She's a disability rights activist in the very busy mom of an almost nine year old son.

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Dot Nary: Finally, Karin Korb holds degrees in public administration and sports management. She's deeply passionate about inclusion of persons with disabilities at every level of sport in life.

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Dot Nary: Her career and advocacy and public policy spans two decades, and she always seeks to represent inclusivity on behalf of those who are too often voiceless and I'll turn it over to April to begin

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April Murdock: I thank you. Um, first off, I want to say I'm really honored to be a part of this.

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April Murdock: And I know time is a constraint here, so I will get on with it really quick. Um, for

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April Murdock: Most of my life 60 years of my life. I was able bodied, you know, person trans woman.

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April Murdock: Where I was involved with so much in the community so many different people in the community, you know, as far as, you know,

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April Murdock: Somewhat tried to get used to. Now, this new normal that you okay my legs don't work anymore and but when I got back out into community everybody you are complete. I was completely seen different. And when I look around, or somebody that is like me.

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April Murdock: I'm also a different entity disabled disability community. It's, you know, the two things crossover, and they make differences, you know, no matter what. And then, you know, as far as going out in the world, um,

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April Murdock: Something else already that's amazing and all that, you know, but then, let me just speak about accommodations. So

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April Murdock: Businesses and everything, you know, then they they have made accommodations for disabled folks. So I can now get in there you know and and you

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April Murdock: Were able to go places to stay, you know, an access things that happen like that. Well, that all depends. Because, you know,

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April Murdock: As a trans woman and another in certain places if I need to use the restroom. Well, yeah, okay, it's great. I can go in there is accessible for wheelchair users.

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April Murdock: But it isn't accessible because I'm a trans woman. You know, it's these are, this is these are the things that you run into, you know, possibly you know and and

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April Murdock: As simple as, you know, being disabled being trans. The two just don't mesh you know i i have come in and visible, as you know, and my own community where I felt at home and you know, but in another community. You know, I, you know,

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April Murdock: Which is great. I'm happy about that. You know, I don't want anymore don't misunderstand me. You know when you're looking around and you want to see, you know, when you want to identify with somebody that doesn't happen that's not there, you know, and

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April Murdock: I think people, you know, feel better because but it's true. People don't think like, you know, I'm very involved.

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April Murdock: In activism and all that. And you know, when I first started going out and and I would get involved with different protests and stuff like that and you know if the crowd and everybody's ready to go and. Yay. Let's take to the streets and all that.

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April Murdock: I can't do that. I can't just flop. You know, I want to be like, No, I mean, it's really bad November 2 of 2018 I was just rolling down the sidewalk and and as you. He came up. He literally took me out while I was just

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April Murdock: A sidebar. I was on the sidebar. They people just do not pay attention. They don't see you, you know,

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April Murdock: And this is, this is something that really, really has to change. And so it's why you know I become involved now with, you know, trying to make changes in the stable within the

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April Murdock: I have some amazing friends you lose a lot of friends. You know, I thought I lost friends when I became when I transition to over the you know me and

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April Murdock: You know, I had gotten on to a lot of support, you know, with the state and the county that I live in and all that and everything.

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April Murdock: Which is an extremely hard challenge to do, which is really hard to make you jump through like these insane hoops and all. Well, I finally got most of the things straight. Now, nobody was rolling along well then up top. Oh, transgender

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April Murdock: Everything will shut off just like that. They just I want to pick up some nutrition you no longer have you no longer have covered, you no longer have snap you no longer have everything was turned off. And when I want to find out why.

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April Murdock: Somebody

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April Murdock: Decided they would change my gender marker so somebody who just doesn't like trans people.

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April Murdock: Deal with they don't like so that through the computer into a tizzy, who are we dealing with and all that. And it took

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April Murdock: Literally seven months to straighten all that out. It got straightened out, which is awesome. But, um, you know, it's adult thing. It's like, you know, you're either the only with the thing is because

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April Murdock: This discrimination with being trans or dealing with the you know discriminations and hardships of, you know, navigating life. It's April 1

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: April.

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: Yeah, April Thank you so much for sharing. Do you mind if we transfer over to Fran?

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April Murdock: Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: That's your, your experience is very much heard and we appreciate you being vulnerable with us.

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April Murdock: I know my thing didn't vibrate.

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April Murdock: Oh, so I didn't ever time was up. Okay.

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Fran Fulton: Thank you, April. Hi, my name is Fran Fulton, I am blind and I use a white cane for mobility, I live right in the heart of Center City Philadelphia just five blocks from City Hall and the area in which the walkout it place here. Last fall, that you will hear about after this presentation.

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Fran Fulton: To sidewalks in Philadelphia, the curb cuts. The streets are a disaster area.

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Fran Fulton: Truly not well taken care of. NET well maintained the responsibility for maintenance the sidewalks falls on the property owners and we're the person who manages the business that may be leasing that building.

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Fran Fulton: And they don't take care of it. There are broken sidewalks. There are whole sections of concrete that are raised up maybe because of water.

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Fran Fulton: And, um, I don't know. She could cure that or not. I'm sorry, my phone was talking to me. But anyway, um,

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Fran Fulton: The city of Philadelphia also likes to have a colonial look. And as a result, there are sidewalks and streets with Brick. Brick is a real hazard to most people walking, especially when it's wet but if a brick is missing.

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Fran Fulton: Curb cuts in many areas, the city of the city, especially where there are low curbs. Anyway, the curb cut isn't very distinctive and if there aren't tactile

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Fran Fulton: On warnings, I can find myself walking right into an intersection there are curb cuts that are not east, west, north, south, they are round. So for applying person who has to line up with, you know, at a right angle to know how to cross properly that takes away my independence.

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Fran Fulton: Probably what hurts me the most, or it's the hardest for me in the city of Philadelphia.

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Fran Fulton: Are there is no universal rules or regulations.

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Fran Fulton: Construction. There are, I can walk halfway down the street. And then there's a huge sign taking over the whole street that says you know sidewalk closed. I have no way of knowing that yellow tape.

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Fran Fulton: I can walk through it because my cane can't find it yellow tape is across your chest. Usually, but the hardest part really are what people say to me.

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Fran Fulton: I'm so for some reason, because I'm blind. I don't have the right to be on the street. I don't have the skills and the ability

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Fran Fulton: People assume I shouldn't be there. And some of the things that are said are so hurtful that I get distracted and then maybe trip. Anyway, um, people will come up. I've had people slide their arm through mine and I look at them and say, I'm going to help you across the street.

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Fran Fulton: Or just Wednesday. I'm walking to the bank and they cross the street a woman's talking to telling me how she admired me don't really care to be admired, but

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Fran Fulton: She admired me for being out on my own and we got to the other side of the street. She says, Do you have a nurse at home to, you know, take care of you.

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Fran Fulton: I was so hurt by that. Why would I be out walking on the streets. If I didn't know what I was doing. I have a brain. I can think I can use my skills but well meaning citizens are cruel.

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Fran Fulton: I am bruises on my body from where I have fallen and potholes or tripped over curbs and etc etc but I very often come home with an aching heart to think that no one sees me for

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Fran Fulton: So that's what I have to say to all of you, whatever we can do to make our streets safer and to make our communities healthier. Call me to help there. Thank you very much. And I think Jana is next.

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Jana Lynott: Yes. Hello, everybody.

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Jana Lynott: So I think all of us on the panel were asked to share our thoughts from our lived experience in that for me as as an able bodied white woman.

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Jana Lynott: Which provides me with a substantial amount of privilege for interacting with our built environment. So I'm going to share a quick thoughts on that as well as quick observation about how the use of our built environment can impact the sidewalk realm for older adults and others.

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Jana Lynott: So the places and spaces that we consider to be well designed work pretty well for me.

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Jana Lynott: But unfortunately these comprise the minority of our public street space, much of which ignores the needs of pedestrians and bicyclists or designs for them as an afterthought.

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Jana Lynott: And what comes to mind for me are our urban arterial roadways. These are those wide multi lane multi turn lane roads that front big box strip mall retail

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Jana Lynott: And these are the roads were a disproportionate share of pedestrian deaths occur. Now I didn't own my first car until I was 27 years old.

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Jana Lynott: And not only did they feel scary from a traffic state safety standpoint, but also a personal security standpoint, I was frequently harassed while walking along these roads. My cat calls by men, pulling over and their cars asking if I would like a ride.

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Jana Lynott: In contrast, I have never been harassed in this way in the United States, at least in an environment that is designed for intimate human interaction. In other words, environments that are designed for pedestrians.

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Jana Lynott: Now my observation about these well designed pedestrian environments today is that our current emerging use of them is taking us a step back in terms of inclusive city and I say this

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Jana Lynott: Because of the growing use of micro mobility devices, namely dockless bikes and scooters where users will park them willy nilly on the sidewalk, creating tripping hazards for older adults and people with low vision.

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Jana Lynott: It can also create complete blockages for people using wheelchairs. So to sum up my quick remarks, I just want to remind us all that as we work to design

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: Thank you. Jana. And now we will hear from LaToya

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Latoya Maddox: Hello everyone, I first want to say thank you to make em Fran Fran had called it asked me to

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Latoya Maddox: Be a part of this and I'm glad I decided to do it, cuz now it's good that people can hear from a this able parents

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Latoya Maddox: And when my son stop going to date here is they care and luckily went to kindergarten, so

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Latoya Maddox: I didn't have to look for anything. But once first grade hit. I had to hunt for a school that was not all the it had to be accessible and it had to be

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Latoya Maddox: If it was accessible and not on one level, it had to have like an elevator and so that I could get to the other floors in case my son.

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Latoya Maddox: Was on another floor for which was true for first and second grade. He was on the second floor. So

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Latoya Maddox: They had an elevator in the building, but I had to wait for somebody to get the key to let me upstairs, and I'm like, why don't you guys have. I'm the only disabled parent coming to the school. Why is the elevator.

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Latoya Maddox: And they they wouldn't give me an answer for first grade, second grade. It was there. It was

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Latoya Maddox: I live in an urban neighborhood where you know some of the parents when they come to the school. They come a bit abrasive. So they have to walk to the elevate so parents can't just go over the school without permission. So, you know,

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Latoya Maddox: We're working on that. And now that we're in the pandemic, my son told me a couple weeks ago that his fourth grade class will be on the second floor. And I remember from a parent meeting.

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Latoya Maddox: That I went to a couple times the elevator was blocked off with a bunch of lunch room tables.

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Latoya Maddox: It didn't work. So I was like, What, what's wrong with you guys as elevator and they're like, oh, it's not working. But if you want to go to a place where you can go around outside. And I'm like, not doing that. It's cold.

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Latoya Maddox: I it's okay, his teachers right here. I could talk to her, Dale's fears and that's fine but a case of an emergency and

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Latoya Maddox: My son needs because sometimes he does not want because he also has a disability himself. He doesn't want to be bothered by other people. Sometimes he just wants his mother or his father.

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Latoya Maddox: I should be able to get to my child when I need to get to. So, you know, that's a discussion that I would have been having with

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Latoya Maddox: His school but we're doing the virtual option for him for the upcoming school year, because the coven and everything.

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Latoya Maddox: But you know, it's, there's also other to save parents in Philadelphia, who eventually they have young children who are like a year so younger than mine and

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Latoya Maddox: Some who have older children in our high schoolers. And because the parents. This ability is, you know, worsening they too are now having the challenges that I

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Latoya Maddox: Ultimately will have for the rest of my life because their disability now caused them to use a wheelchair or mobility mobility device, whereas the they

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Latoya Maddox: Once were if they were able to go up the stairs to talk to suit their child's teacher. Sorry. They now.

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Latoya Maddox: May have limited access in school, because the school mean I have an elevator and because it was before.

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Latoya Maddox: Or grandfather, then before the ABA you know necessarily date to not some schools feel as though they don't have to make those changes in

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Latoya Maddox: You know, I'm a great advocate and I assist other parents who asked questions like, you know, you can have these things done. If you just have that the willpower patients and, you know,

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Latoya Maddox: Be very put you have to push. Because if you don't push, not everybody is going to make those changes. So that's just a little bit of what I am working on and working to grow. And that's all I have right now. Thank you.

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Karin Korb: Hey everyone is Karen Korb I work for the short foundation and policy and advocacy. I am a white disabled woman with long blond hair and I am wearing a blue dress and my pronouns, or she and her

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Karin Korb: I want to thank Charles, especially because he really set the tone for this presentation, and it is an incredible privilege to be on this, not only on this panel. But this entire venue. So thank you for that. And there are, I think, Mackenzie, do you have a three pictures on the screen.

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Karin Korb: Yes.

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Mackenzie.Jones@mt.gov: Yes, I have the most

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Karin Korb: Thank you so much.

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Karin Korb: So the three pictures on the screen that you see and I want to talk about the picture that is on the right hand side which showcases a curb cuts.

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Karin Korb: And the raise domes that are used by people who are blind and have visual impairments to navigate a sidewalk and where it comes to the end of street.

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Karin Korb: So I live in Birmingham, Alabama, and I chose an apartment that was very close to railroad Park very specifically because I like to push my wheelchair in the morning to get some party on some some fitness.

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Karin Korb: And I use a trail, which is the Jones Valley trail and the rotary trail. It is approximately a three mile push to the park using those two trails.

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Karin Korb: And then I have literally two intersections before I get to the park entrance I push super early in the morning about 6am like a lot of people who do activity.

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Karin Korb: And at the last intersection. Now, all of us on this panel who give thousands of examples of where the built environment has fallen short

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Karin Korb: Specifically to compliance and with specific faults in design. So at this last intersection. That is a Jason to the park entrance there is this particular circuit.

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Karin Korb: And what you can see is a big hole within this curb cut that is covered by leaves. So you can imagine what happened to Karen.

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Karin Korb: pushing my wheelchair. I am not necessarily paying attention because there's leaves. I don't see it, my front caster, which is the front small wheel of my wheelchair gets caught

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Karin Korb: In this area, and I literally fall out of the wheelchair bust my shoulder. The chair goes roll. I mean picture it rolling down the street. Thankfully, there's a car. So my chair stops and there is nobody super early if you've ever been to Birmingham on a Sunday, no one's out

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Karin Korb: A good Samaritan is bicycling early in the morning, he's a man. I'm a little nervous. I can't get up and run

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Karin Korb: He literally does not say one word to me, he sees my wheelchair. He brings my wheelchair to me.

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Karin Korb: Doesn't say a word to me and I'm shaking. I don't know what to do. So I'm like, you know, whatever. Maybe he's going to help me back in the chair. So I asked him, he nods yes I tell him how to pick me up, put me back in my wheelchair. I'm mortified.

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Karin Korb: I never see this man again he literally rescued me. I'm so grateful. So wherever he is. Thank you.

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Karin Korb: Now I am sharing this particular story.

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Karin Korb: Because that curb cut, even with multiple complaints to the city over a year still remains broken

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Karin Korb: Remember this curve is right adjacent to the beginning entrance of the park so multiple people use it.

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Karin Korb: This isn't necessarily just about disabled people.

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Karin Korb: This is about non disabled runners, people who are going for walks, people who are using skateboards. Their razors their scooters their micro abilities people on foot food carts canes and crutches.

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Karin Korb: While the prioritization of access is, for me, the most of us who are disabled is the absolute ideal, but more importantly, it is an obligation by law.

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Karin Korb: And obligation by law.

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Karin Korb: The main the maintenance of this access is also of great importance, just like cutting back the trees so they don't hit you in the face and watering the beautiful foliage that is in your area.

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Karin Korb: Now before I go on.

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Karin Korb: To introduce the next segment. I also want to share that I know that I have been personally doing this work for over three years. It's a privilege. Just a lot of work.

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Karin Korb: I want to emphasize the phases of planning and scouting that are involved with an inclusive walk and move on it when you include a person with a disability or many diverse disabled people and by diverse

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Karin Korb: I mean not only different types of disabilities but also different types of social identifiers, just like Charles alluded to in his presentation.

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Karin Korb: There are nuances to a disabled persons experience that you as someone who may not have a disability, you will miss

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Karin Korb: However you without that disability. You may also have decision making capacity in your municipality, so it is critical for you to include this diverse and intersection A level of input.

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Karin Korb: What disabled people, people with disabilities bring forward to a team.

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Karin Korb: We advise and height and the experience for and with all the stakeholders and participants.

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Karin Korb: And we make it a better experience.

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Karin Korb: I'm sure the next set of panelists will expound on this.

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Karin Korb: And without further ado, I'm going to introduce who our next presenters are

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Karin Korb: And their presenters will be their presentation is on lessons learned during a walkability move ability audit.

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Karin Korb: Conducted this past fall in Downtown Philadelphia, which was sponsored by the disability section of the American Public Health Association during the annual American Public Health Association meeting.

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Karin Korb: Mark Fenton, who is an engineer and a public health planning and transportation consultant

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Karin Korb: Will Frazier, who is the transportation Outreach Coordinator for the Clean Air council in Philadelphia.

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Karin Korb: And next wall Rogers of the Clean Air Council sustainable transportation program, they will be sharing their experiences in leading and learning from a diverse group of participants right

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Mark Fenton: Thank you so much, Karen. It is a privilege to be here with everybody and I need to tell you that

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Mark Fenton: I've been doing walk audits supposedly as an expert for 25 years and I think I've only be gone to get a little better at them. Thanks to

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Mark Fenton: Particularly three people on this call Charles who you heard at the beginning, Meg, Tracy who sort of

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Mark Fenton: brought forward this very notion of inclusive interdisciplinary walk god it's with a team of other people and Karen who's been become an extraordinary friend and mentor in this work.

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Mark Fenton: So I have to give them a shout out of thanks, because I felt privileged to be asked to take part and help co facilitate these walk artists that we did in in Philly last fall and and

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Mark Fenton: As Karen pointed out, there were we had any number of phone calls leading up to the walk on it where we were looking at Google Maps and trying to think about a route we had the great help of

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Mark Fenton: local stakeholders, such as Fran, and will and Nick new Center City Philadelphia where we're going to be meeting.

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Mark Fenton: Karen and and some of those folks did a scouting of the route the evening before that morning before the walk on it will and Nick and I got out for a walk around the route.

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Mark Fenton: So I'm going to share some general observations and then and then we'll wrap up with some experiences on the walk. Let me say this, that, as I think about what I like to call it audits inclusive interdisciplinary walk move audits, but for simplicity I call them i to audits now.

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Mark Fenton: First, think about goals, you know, is this just outreach. Are we doing education AS WE WERE HOPING TO DO WITH THE PHA conference, are we trying to expire an elected official or

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Mark Fenton: Or a public works department to think differently. Are we doing practical planning, looking at a specific route perhaps

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Mark Fenton: The very challenge that that Karen described, you know, we're going to take a walk on it and audit where we go look at maybe that very intersection

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Mark Fenton: Is it about policy change updating our zoning ordinance, making sure that our public works policies are fully compliant with the Americans disabilities that

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Mark Fenton: Is it going to be a qualitative walk. Are we going to think about the experience and whether it invites people to be out here and move in this space is it inviting or is it going to be very quantitative

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Mark Fenton: Nick and will have done some great work with this checklist and they'll get out and do very objective even measure based how wide our lanes.

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Mark Fenton: Are what what kind of side slopes are we dealing with, you know the details of the design, who's the target audience is it an elected official. Is it the public works department is it

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Mark Fenton: A private institution where we're talking about access to their building and

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Mark Fenton: I, as I just suggested we believe that pre scouting the route selecting it for what I will call teachable moments can be really, really valuable thinking about the route. What we learn as we do this, what might get brought up what might be observe

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Mark Fenton: And and you're scouting helps lead to that. And I always suggest that we capture feedback afterwards because

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Mark Fenton: It to take people out and have this experience and share it together and the word shared is really important to me because to me, and I to audit is not the experts telling

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Mark Fenton: The participants with a solution. Or here's how a curb ramp should be designed. Here's what land, you should put here, but rather it is the group together sharing the experience discovery and solutions.

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Mark Fenton: And don't predetermine with the teachable moment to be is one of my big lessons. When I did one of our first I to audits in Helena, Montana. The picture on the lower right here. You know I'm always looking for the disco. The

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Mark Fenton: Teachable Moment of the all of us coming upon that the dirt trail. The picture on the right, top here that the path has been warned by pedestrians, but

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Mark Fenton: My friend, Jerry, who I met at that Helen a walk on it. He's in the picture in the lower right, and there he is in his wheelchair and he also happens to be

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Mark Fenton: A type two diabetic and his experience when we were doing the feedback afterwards. He said, Mark. I didn't think I was gonna be able to stay for the whole training today.

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Mark Fenton: I have not brought all of my diabetes medications or maybe some syringes, he had left at home and he said, so I figured if my glucose levels started up I was going to have to head home.

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Mark Fenton: He said, but because of the physical activity of going out on the audit together says my glucose was more controlled think today. In other words, the physical activity had the benefit, which has been well established and

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Mark Fenton: Of helping controls glucose levels and he said his teachable moment was that that physical activities should be an important part of his day, all the time. And he really saw felt it was beneficial.

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Mark Fenton: And being out on the audit you look forward to now being a co facilitators of audits going forward in part for that very health benefit.

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Mark Fenton: You never know what the teachable moment will be

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Mark Fenton: Having said that, I do want to remind you to think broadly as you're helping to facilitate if you're leading or participating in an eye to audit.

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Mark Fenton: All we think about is the pictures here show the mix of land uses having places where kids go to school live and work and shop and play close proximity. You also need a network of facilities that are

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Mark Fenton: connecting those destinations. When you arrive at the destination is the picture on the lower right shows you want it to be rewarding building at the street street trees awnings benches bike rack water fountain.

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Mark Fenton: All the things that say we're happy to have you here outside of an automobile moving under your own power.

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Mark Fenton: And last but not least, it's got to be safe and fully accessible for all users. Many of the technical details of design have to be in place if it's going to really work for everyone as as some of the images on the lower left here show

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Mark Fenton: And the point of that is that that happens on at least three different scales. There's certainly the mezzo the middle scale of the network itself and in here on the left we see two folks navigating a curb ramp with the detectable warning, she's in a motorized wheelchair.

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Mark Fenton: And and it's great that we look at those details of the sidewalk, the curb ramp. The, you know, sort of the crosswalk.

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Mark Fenton: But as Karen has often reminded me they should not be just aid, if you will, Ada

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Mark Fenton: Audit we're not just looking at the compliance with the American disabilities that we've got to be looking at the macro scale to wouldn't destinations are nearby within walkable Baikal

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Mark Fenton: Movable distance. For me, the woman in the top right here is walking. She's using a cane and we see that she's walking to nearby park.

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Mark Fenton: On the lower right, that image sort of depicts the micro scale. The details of design street trees on the bench on the street in front of the barbershop.

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Mark Fenton: The point is, we want to make sure that when we facilitate an audit. We have people think on all three skills, the macro scale of what destinations are the mezzo scale of the network that connects them in the micro scale of the details of design.

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Mark Fenton: We often if people will sometimes asking me some more detail on the technicalities of an audit, how long should it be

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Mark Fenton: You obviously are going to always adjust to the abilities of your group that conditions. The goals of the outcome, but we often target about a mile, maybe a mile and a half, try to cover that distance in perhaps an hour.

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Mark Fenton: And we might open with an opening discussion that sort of gets people create some context.

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Mark Fenton: conclude with a discussion of what we saw and possible solutions. So don't I love to say, don't just do the audit, but also include some opening discussion and some closing

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Mark Fenton: Discussion of solutions. Who should you invite well it to me. I'm often thinking of who can make a difference and

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Mark Fenton: I won't read this list. It's available in the slides, but they range from public health, the planners to elected officials school administrators

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Mark Fenton: Housing Authority public transit agencies Parks and Recreation. But how about big employers. How about the chamber of commerce or economic development folks about the private development community all are possible.

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Mark Fenton: When inviting them to participate. The question we might not want to ask is, how can you help us, but rather

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Mark Fenton: What are common goals that we can help you meet together because you as an employer want your employees to be able to get to work in a safe and healthy way. And you want all of your employees to be able to do that.

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Mark Fenton: You as a downtown business group or a chamber of commerce want all potential customers patrons to be able to come to your store, not just those

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Mark Fenton: Who have the privilege to be able to access it by car right so. So always think about the script you will use in inviting somebody to participate in the I

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Mark Fenton: Having said that, I'm going to ask Nick and well to talk a little about specifically the walk.

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Mark Fenton: That we did in Philadelphia. REMEMBER THE PHA conferences happening in that big building in the upper right of this photo. Here's a map of kind of Center City Philadelphia, where we were.

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Mark Fenton: That convention center and we were going to do a loop through the area. So gentlemen, if you if you would maybe share a bit about our walk and how we were, we went

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William Fraser: Thanks, Mark, for sure, great overview of the walk audit and just want to quickly review the PHA

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William Fraser: Walk audit walk and move audit planning.

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William Fraser: And route selection, which was conducted by diverse and inclusive team.

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William Fraser: Including disability advocates and allies and as Mark mentioned, we, we first started planning over email a few weeks prior to the expo and the route was scattered in person by multiple teams.

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William Fraser: Both the evening before and the morning of and we were we were pressed for time with only 30 minutes to conduct the audit time and distance

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William Fraser: That were constraints constraint, the rail also had to be close to the seminar Hall and the convention center center.

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William Fraser: While demonstrating pedestrian environments strengths and weaknesses. So we started at the convention center.

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William Fraser: Our first stop was at the municipal building, which includes Thomas Paine plaza this pause it contains public art and but it is difficult to access. So we definitely wanted to point that out as as

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William Fraser: Something that was important to note LOVE Park was the second stop where we pointed out the previous parks design, which was not Ada accessible.

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William Fraser: But the park was recently renovated to be more inclusive people with disabilities. And then lastly we stopped at lunch test Plaza, which we thought would be a shining example of an accessible public space along the way.

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William Fraser: And many of the crossings car brands and sidewalk conditions we pointed to as examples of also being dangerous and not a DA compliant.

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William Fraser: And here you can see that the three stops for the end of the Civil Service for parking length test positive. The next slide.

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William Fraser: See the first photograph shows at the first stop at them in a civil service building entrance, and you can see the Frank Rizzo statue in the background there.

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William Fraser: Picture two shows this the recently renovated LOVE Park which eliminated a tier step design in favor of flat opens break ground pork.

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William Fraser: And then photos, three and four. Sho L'Enfant Plaza, which we heard feedback about during the walk audit about the lack of curb cuts and in ground lighting.

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William Fraser: That made it difficult for audit participants with disabilities to navigate. So that was an important lesson to learn

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William Fraser: And then through the discussion. Stop. I think this is a really good example in this photograph of what a discussion stop looks like taken close group of people surrounding mark.

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William Fraser: As the first point in the walk audit and you can see it Mark asking the crowd to read the first section of the walk.

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William Fraser: And Nick, do you have a civil service building on a talk a bit more about that.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: Sure, yeah. Thanks, Mark and well and thanks all of the other panelists helped put this together today.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So we don't have a lot of time to go into detail through all the different parts of the walk and roll on it, but we thought this stuff was interesting.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: To take a closer look and offer an important lesson learned, kind of, glancing back at the audit month later, especially given the context of today's discussion.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So the municipal services building and Thomas Paine plaza here. We gave a real critical focus to the accessibility from an API perspective.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: The route on your screen in blue highlights all the ways you can access this plaza using and the building using stairs and read. On the other hand, highlights the only way you can get into that plaza and access the building is from

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: It through the entire one block radius is via a ramp in the in the bottom right corner of the screen. And this is meant to really kind of get everybody on the same page about how inconvenient. That is for someone to continue on their path if they have to double pack at this point.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So looking at this audit now i think it's it's important for us to acknowledge our biases and blind spots in designing it. So in general, I THINK PEDESTRIAN event advocates don't give enough

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: Attention to how racism inhibits walkability and accessibility, we tend to think about physical infrastructure like curb ramps and sidewalk conditions, the presence of prospects.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: And the planning of this walk and roll out. It included some included a diverse

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: Group of people in terms of gender and physical ability, but not in color. And I think there's an important lesson in this site here.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: Of how critical it is that all types of perspectives are a part of designing your walk and roll on it.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So besides the ramp and stairs issue at this site. Another critical component that affects the walkability and accessibility of this plaza was statue of Frank Rizzo

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So for those of you who aren't from Philadelphia Frank Rizzo was the police commissioner and then he was the mayor of the city in the 1960s and 70s.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: And he perpetrated a legacy of police brutality created and black Philadelphians as both the LGBT community and other minority groups.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: The presence of the statue prominently position outside the cities in this building where thousands of people either work or they access basic city services served as a daily reminder of racism that, among other things, diminished the walkability and accessibility of this site.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So no, we definitely talked about this briefly during our audit, I think, though it was unfortunately the discussion was almost a side note, physical accessibility issues that we really focused on around

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: In the context of today's discussion. I think there was a missed opportunity to discuss in depth. The way that the statute prohibits the accessibility of the building to black Philadelphians in particular.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: And I think if we had a more diverse group planning the audit that included people of color, we might have elevated the aspect of the audit and the way that it does.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: So you can see here on this slide. The slideshows photo in the top right of the statue finally being removed.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: Just a few months later, after the audit was done after years of calls to do so and days of protests in early June.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: The removal of this and other races monuments around the country over the summer. I think are offering an important reminder that what makes a place fighting for people to walk and roll extends beyond just basic pedestrian infrastructure.

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Mark Fenton: Now, I think it's great. And it's a great reminder that that we are supposed to walk ability move ability experts, sort of, you know,

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Mark Fenton: Didn't get it all right there. If the teachable moments never stopped. I guess it's really the point. So a couple of concluding insights, just from our perspective on this. This has been great experience.

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Mark Fenton: But observing how with spaces being used or not by others, not just how you were using by anybody else even there when you're there as an observer, really important.

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Mark Fenton: Pain Plaza. Great. I think notation around the accessibility challenges the physical accessibility. But we, there were other embedded challenges that we entirely missed. Isn't it just talked about.

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Mark Fenton: So who scouts and who facilitates the conversation matters a lot. And that's

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Mark Fenton: One of the reasons for the two eyes inclusive interdisciplinary. You know, like, the more we can be included in the more interdisciplinary, the better it is my my sort of ongoing goal in this work because

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Mark Fenton: The most effective audits will always be an act of shared discovery and shared problem solving. So I just want to thank everybody on this call.

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Mark Fenton: That has allowed me to be a part of all this, because I think I'm going to be better at it next time I go, I'm quite certain of. And I look forward to working with all of them. So thanks so much. And, and I think we're going to be wrapping up and move into questions shortly.

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Meg Traci: This is make Tracy again and I want to thank all our presenters.

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Meg Traci: While dot organizes questions for the last segment of this webinar. We like to mention that we are planning a next webinar on our experiences with a virtual audits.

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Meg Traci: I to audit some related resources, including two webinars on virtual audits are included in the resource list that we will disseminate with meeting materials.

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Meg Traci: As background. The I to audit workshop in Philadelphia last fall included a virtual option.

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Meg Traci: This was provided as an alternative alternate format to the outdoor audit this format included a slideshow with photos from the route and opportunities for shared discovery and learning.

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Meg Traci: About 15 people prefer this option to going outside for the audit the cobra 19 pandemic has amplified the importance of this option and how

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Meg Traci: And we are working to refine how virtual artists operate as an option in a local in person workshop and as a sole opportunity in an online workshop

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Meg Traci: We are very interested in how they support desired outcomes such as inclusion and health equitable outcomes and we invite you to stay tuned.

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Meg Traci: And I'd like to go to marry just for

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Meg Traci: This next. And I think one of the most important parts. So, this webinar is time for Q AMP a

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Dot Nary: Great, thank you. Meg and thank you to all the presenters. We've got a couple of questions here. And I want to give one of very timely one

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Dot Nary: Can you discuss any insights on how groups are conducting or not conducting walk by audits now with Cobra 19

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Dot Nary: Also, any broader insights from other panelists and how covert 19 is impacting active policy campaigns for complete streets and how to message you need for complete streets when cities are facing budget shortfalls in focused on the pandemic.

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Mark Fenton: I'll jump in first, but know that they're going to be great answers on this from others to two quick answers are

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Mark Fenton: We know a lot of communities are recognizing increased demand for walk, bike rollable spaces and other words

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Mark Fenton: We've seen cities closed parking lanes were motor vehicle traffic has been down and turn them into extended sidewalks, whether those are waiting areas for retail environments actual bike pedestrian lanes on

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Mark Fenton: A seating space for for businesses. In other words, the city's many cities are thinking about reallocating space around shifting demand. So some

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Mark Fenton: I will say some communities have a wide variety of sizes. I'm now beginning to realize are exploring what we might have called complete streets.

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Mark Fenton: And Devers as necessitated by this great demand for people to be able to get out and move under their own power.

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Mark Fenton: during the pandemic and street space that was historically really just allocated to automobiles, but with traffic volumes down in some city centers are and including smaller cities and even towns.

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Mark Fenton: That allocation is happening. So there's a window of opportunity there for what we're calling

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Mark Fenton: Demonstration projects, low cost treatments removable treatments that you can test and demonstrate treatments.

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Mark Fenton: At not great expense with things like paint and flexible delineate errors and planters, all of which can be removed or even modified as we learn. That's number one. Number two.

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Mark Fenton: I've had some good experience doing what we're calling virtual walk audits and or

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Mark Fenton: Photo voice photo voices an exercise that public health have historically used where you ask people to take photos of their environment and then attach a caption photo and voice.

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Mark Fenton: And the caption is your opportunity to say that's why I took that picture and I'll often just say take pictures of things either

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Mark Fenton: encouraging you to be out walking and rolling in your environment or not. And then, and then tell us why you know what why you took that photo.

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Mark Fenton: So that's a work can be done virtually we've had many workshops on that. And we've even had students, for example, create walk audits that is take the pictures of the route, they're going to walk.

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Mark Fenton: Or would have walked with a group

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Mark Fenton: And then create a Google Doc and ask people to review it and answer a series of questions. Do the scoring very like the scoring that will describe, we would when we stopped into our discussion stops.

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Mark Fenton: They create little question points in the document. So I think innovative work is happening around this and there's a lot of room for more. But I don't think we should let the fact that we have to work virtually keep us from forging ahead in creating more walkable movable environments.

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Dot Nary: Any other comments, shall I move to the next question.

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Dot Nary: Okay. Um, this is also for this last panel, but other panelists may want to weigh in the ADA is a minimum standard, not the

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Dot Nary: be all and end all to create a truly accessible environment. Can you share any instances instances where an inordinate revealed accessible needs beyond the ADA.

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Dot Nary: Such as one person mentioned benches with backs for people, older people or anyone who can't walk distances and needs to rest if you have that experience and you walk on it.

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Mark Fenton: I'm just going to one of my best tutors on this has been Karen Corp. So I'd invite her to answer but Nick you're jumping on it. So go for it.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: I was just going to highlight the example we gave again where, you know, I think the ADA is something that we look to a lot of times I'm thinking about, you know, critical infrastructure.

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: Describing those needs, but that there's, you know, there's oftentimes other things outside of that, like,

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Nick Zuwiala-Rogers: You know this example just kind of the, the environment that's there and whether or not it makes people feel invited to walk in that place or not go into it. So I think there's, there's, you know, you can look a lot of different ways.

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Karin Korb: And now, it also add, I would also add that sometimes

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Karin Korb: the built environment is a bit violent to people so you know when you don't have a seat that has a back or you have armrest in order to help you get up now that's that becomes very problematic to people.

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Karin Korb: Who may just need a little bit of help getting up and there's because there's ADA compliance or there's a compliance dialogue does not mean it is accessible to all.

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Karin Korb: Users and so that's something that we're working on. We're having big discussions around Universal Design and literally celebrating the ADA 30 and what's next.

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Karin Korb: Because we talked about compliance. It is setting the bar incredibly low

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Karin Korb: We are in 2020 now and all things are changing. I mean, if you look at the entirety of this panel and the perspectives that Charles brought forward when these are the things that we must talk about, we must implement and we must prioritize with our resources.

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Mark Fenton: I will give one other example to I've worked in small communities where or medium sized cities and towns where it's not just, again, the micro scale or the macro scale, right, but as Karen's teaching me, you know, sort of,

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Mark Fenton: Is that destination, even within Walker movable distance for me. Can I get if I've got to use transit. Can I get to it. So social services, you know, where's the Social Security office. Where's the

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Mark Fenton: The health center if we make land use decisions that put those things out on the cheap land on to the other town because we want to save money.

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Mark Fenton: That short term budgetary disco decision that then makes that a very hard place to access because it's not within what I would call walk move transit sort of range right it's not on a transit route, it's not within a walkable rollable distance

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Mark Fenton: Who have I disenfranchised who have I disconnected from that essential social service. So I'm always doing my rule of thumb is often the

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Mark Fenton: Grocery store pharmacies, a hardware post office sort of check. That's just a gut check sort of base level daily needs how proximate are those How accessible are those two to the full.

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Mark Fenton: Range of the population nachos, to those who can drive there in a car. So, and we often come up with that on audits. You know, I make people think about land uses destinations, not just the corridor.

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Dot Nary: And

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Dot Nary: One more question about walk audits. I'm usually do you consider the time of day for the audit on peak travel time school arrival departures whether there's low light or after snow. How do you, how do you work that into a one time thing.

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William Fraser: That those are all important considerations, especially say if you're doing a walk audit around the school. You want to be able to

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William Fraser: Either conduct a walk on it when schools and sort of going into or coming out of session so early in the morning or in the early afternoon.

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William Fraser: To be able to make sure that you understand where children are going to come from, how they're getting there, and know what intersections. As an example, seem to be most popular. So definitely think that's

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William Fraser: The time of day is definitely important.

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Dot Nary: Okay. Well, thank you.

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Mark Fenton: And season. Let's just give a nod, because we're showing nice weather summertime of pictures.

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Mark Fenton: in Philly.

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Mark Fenton: I've done audits in an anchorage alaska in Minneapolis, you know, North Country in winter intentionally and communities that say we have

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Mark Fenton: We have snow clearing problems and Boy, I'll tell you, you get an inclusive group out in challenging conditions. We did them in Helena, right, Maggie remember being out in the snow and Helena.

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Mark Fenton: very instructive. Where does the snow get piled often right at the bottom where does the ice form at the bottom of the curb ramp right where the water collects

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Mark Fenton: So it's really can be powerful to have a public works department, you know, other stakeholders out on an audit to see that experientially not just talk about it, theoretically, so just day time of day season, those things are should be thoughtfully applied to your work.

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Meg Traci: And Mark I'll add two points. One, that the group that scouted the route with Karen core kind of leading a facilitated approach was done at night.

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Meg Traci: And we were able to bring out how important the programming in that space was at night to creating a feeling of community.

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Meg Traci: And and safety for being in that space and also brought out some of the lighting issues, those teachable moments that you mentioned, and the opportunity to learn with Karen about that.

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Meg Traci: And and and with with others. The other point I'll bring out is the importance of

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Meg Traci: Thinking about this alternate format, having those photos ready for people to stay back in those cold conditions or hot conditions and those extreme weather conditions, people with disabilities really need to protect themselves and so giving that option.

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Meg Traci: As for for folks who prefer it and PR folks who need it and and then having them be able to come back to the planning part of the workshop and have relevant experience to to to include their solutions and priorities, it's, it's really important.

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Dot Nary: Thanks so much, Megan thanks to all who respond to the questions we have a few more. But unfortunately, we've, we've got to move on.

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Dot Nary: But this has been so so enlightening, just to let everyone know there'll be follow up resources available on the Montana disability and

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Dot Nary: Health website, there'll be the fully captioned webinar a transcript contact information for the speakers and a list of resources so that we can all continue to learn and for this issue.

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Dot Nary: Before we close. I'd like to have Latoya And April come back to say a few words about the 30th anniversary of the ADA, take it away.

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Latoya Maddox: This is looks Jolla. So on Sunday, July 26 is the Dave anniversary of the ad a and know the ADA brought about a lot of no good changes for people with disabilities, but there are, there's still a lot of work that needs to be done and

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Latoya Maddox: A lot of, you know, do they when people were born after the ADA. So I think another way we could think of getting things meant for people with disabilities now is through dis disabled justice and April, if you have anything else to say. Take it away.

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Dot Nary: Well, I think we're I think we're at our close. Thanks for that plug for the 30th anniversary, which is a huge event in the disability community.

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Dot Nary: I want to thank you all for participating thank all the presenters. This was a wonderful sharing of information.

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Dot Nary: And I hope it's just the first of many that will be to come. Thanks to Mackenzie Jones for all the work to organize us and to get us ready to deliver this stay safe. Everyone, and have a great day. Thanks for joining us.